tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1635213417608955946.post2227159773764823828..comments2012-07-22T17:09:14.594-07:00Comments on Lutheran-ish: My Name is Heather and I am Hopelessly TrinitarianHeatherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13451651336058025058noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1635213417608955946.post-86114205635513876442010-10-27T13:51:24.121-07:002010-10-27T13:51:24.121-07:00wow
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it's lik...wow<br />I think I love you!<br />:) hehehehehe<br />it's like you took the words right out of my mouth...Hi I'm Pam and I am sinning Trinitarian to nth degree. Ah, I hope God loves dichotomy as much as I doPam Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02110586882062517489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1635213417608955946.post-64291432789802998372010-06-10T17:15:55.137-07:002010-06-10T17:15:55.137-07:00@Tiffany When living in Oklahoma, I was very famil...@Tiffany When living in Oklahoma, I was very familiar with the conservative, baptist church landscape. Most churches here fall somewhere in the middle, but I'd like them to be a bit more open. <br /><br />@Brandon Yes, you did encourage me to write. :) And something today sparked this idea, so I went for it. Nothing profound or heady--just some musings about church. <br /><br />@UUFreeSpirit Thank you for your feedback and your added perspective. You are correct in that I don't fully understand Unitarian Universalism. Many things you said, I agree with. I don't think anyone has a monopoly on truth. I also agree that openness, honesty, etc. is the ideal environment for asking the questions regarding truth. <br /><br />I don't think it's silly or wishy-washy. I was just expecting to see to some hint of spirituality or religiosity on the website. I think you can make certain claims, or make certain general statements that don't have to be rigid or dogmatic nor creedal or doctrinal. I guess I was expecting a more inter-religious community--honoring a diversity of paths--instead of a, what seemed to me, and avoidance or absence of all things religious, minus some vague references to love and light. I am sorry if it came across that I was questioning the seriousness with which UU folks take their journeys. I was in no way suggesting that. <br /><br />Thanks again for your feedback. I appreciate the additional perspective you lend. Also, I do recognize this was a limited experience (viewing the website) of a limited group of UU folks (only one congregation).Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13451651336058025058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1635213417608955946.post-72005939973699902962010-06-10T15:18:39.339-07:002010-06-10T15:18:39.339-07:00Tiffany and Heather, I'm a longtime and "...Tiffany and Heather, I'm a longtime and "confirmed" UU, and I think the point you've both missed is that the core of modern-day (and western-style rather than European) Unitarian Universalism is attitudinal rather than doctrinal...or even theological. To us, it's not so much about what you happen to believe at any particular point in your life but "how" you believe...how you arrive at your beliefs, how tightly/dogmatically you hold it, and how it informs and inspires the way you live in the world (how it motivates you to treat others, the world around you, and, of course yourself). Not believing that anybody has all the answers -- a monopoly on truth -- but there are still some areas where humble people can walk together and work together peacefully and respectfully, our focus is deliberately more the ethical side of religion that builds bridges between people, instead of the dogma-driven side which seeks to erect barriers to keep us apart. <br /><br />In other words, I can assure you that many of us have very strong convictions, and among them is a belief in the central role of personal freedom (free-agency) in matters of faith and conscience, and a conviction that if ultimate truth is ever to be discovered it will more likely come in an atmosphere of openness, abundant freedom and utmost personal honesty than by any other means. Call it silly, or wishy-washy if you like, but to some of us it's every bit as serious as what we had in our former (orthodox) religious lives. <br /><br />I would be happy to chat with you more about this if you like. And, you are invited to learn more about who we REALLY are at the "Unitarian Universalism" Facebook group which I administer... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204654293 .UUFreespirithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00891046571965057201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1635213417608955946.post-7559329787912883412010-06-10T15:15:18.428-07:002010-06-10T15:15:18.428-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.UUFreespirithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00891046571965057201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1635213417608955946.post-86851313264224550312010-06-10T15:08:09.994-07:002010-06-10T15:08:09.994-07:00I'm happy to see a new post...I hope I had a s...I'm happy to see a new post...I hope I had a small influence in that:) J/K. Anyway, I would agree that I want to coexist with those of other faiths. I don't want to offend them with my faith, though I would hope they would see truth/Truth in the faith I live out...though not by me judging them as heretics or something like that. <br /><br /><br />On the other hand, I don't think I could do UU, because I have a certain faith, and I need a church that fosters that faith and helps me to foster the truth/Truth I have already found. I need to be with like-minded (not clones...just like-minded) believers to help me on my path.Brandon Gilberthttp://notjustaboutme.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1635213417608955946.post-60158434091190834162010-06-10T14:56:15.558-07:002010-06-10T14:56:15.558-07:00Tough. I agree with your assessment of that church...Tough. I agree with your assessment of that church...seems a little too...hmm....non-committal? Seems one thing a church should be is committed to a belief system. <br /><br />I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum down here. It's one Conservative Southern Baptist church after another and if you so much as breathe differently than how Brother so-and-so does you're going to Hell. We tried an Easter Service one year at a local church and were given the stink eye because we didn't rush the altar with our hands raised in the air when everyone else did. <br /><br />Ugh.<br /><br />So a happy medium would be nice, yes.Tiffany @ Lattes And Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16113689419516484550noreply@blogger.com